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Question 10

If Jesus was still in a rebellious and active stage at the time of the crucifixion, Does that mean that he had not achieved the total spiritual growth and inner silence of Buddha?

 

 

At the time of the crucifixion he had just entered the moon center. But only on that very day! That has to be understood.

 

The Jesus of The Bible is not like Buddha, Mahavira, or Lao Tzu. You cannot conceive of Buddha's going into a temple and beating moneylenders. But Jesus did it.

 

There were many different activities connected with the great temple of Jerusalem. There was a great moneylending business which exploited the whole country. People would come for an annual gathering and for other gatherings during the year, and obtain money at the temple at a high rate of interest. Then it would be impossible to repay and they would lose everything.

 

The temple was becoming richer and richer: it was religious imperialism. The whole country was poor and suffering, but so much money would be automatically coming into the temple. Then Jesus entered one day with a whip in his hand. He overturned the moneylenders' boards and began to beat the moneylenders. He created chaos in the temple.

 

You cannot conceive of Buddha doing this. Impossible! Jesus was the first communist: he was fiery, rebellious. That is why Christianity could give birth to communism. Hinduism could not give birth to it, no other religion could give birth to it; it is impossible. Only Christianity could do it, because with Jesus it has a relevance. The very language he used was totally different. He got so angry at some things that we cannot even believe it. He cursed a fig tree which was not yielding any fruit because he and his disciples were hungry. He destroyed it!

 

He threatened in a type of language that Buddha could not even utter. For example, he said that those who would not believe in him and the kingdom of God would be thrown into the fires of hell, the eternal fires of hell, and they would not be able to come back. Only the Christian hell is eternal. Every other hell is just a temporary punishment: you go there, you suffer, you come back. But Jesus' hell is eternal.

 

This looks unjust, absolutely unjust. Whatsoever the sin, eternal punishment cannot be justified. It cannot be! And what are the sins? Bertrand Russell has written a book, WHY I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, and one of the reasons he gives is that Jesus seems absurd. Russell says, "If I confess all the sins that I have committed, and all those sins which I have just thought about but never committed, you cannot give me more than five years' imprisonment. But eternal hell?"

 

Jesus speaks the language of a revolutionary when he talks about eternal, nonending punishment -- revolutionaries always look to the opposite end, to the extreme. You cannot conceive of Buddha's saying it or Mahavira's saying it, but Jesus says that a camel can pass through the eye of a needle sooner than a rich man can enter the kingdom of God. He cannot pass! This is the seed of communism, the basic seed. Jesus was a revolutionary. He was not only concerned with spirituality but with economics, politics -- everything. Had he been only a spiritual man he would not have been crucified, but because he became a danger to the whole social structure, to the status quo, he was crucified.

 

He was not a revolutionary like Lenin or Mao but still, Mao and Lenin and Marx are inconceivable without there having been a Jesus in history. They belong to the same path as Jesus: the early Jesus, the fiery man -- rebellious, ready to destroy everything -- the Jesus who was crucified.

 

But Jesus was not simply revolutionary, he was also a spiritual man. He was, somehow, a mixture of Mahavira and Mao. The Mao was crucified and only the Mahavira remained in the end. The day Jesus was crucified was not only the day of his crucifixion, it was the day of his inner transformation also.

 

When Jesus remained silent after Pilate asked him, "What is truth?" he was behaving like a Zen master. If you look at the previous life of Jesus, if you look at his whole previous life, this silence was not like Jesus at all. What happened? Why did he not speak? Why was he at a loss? He was one of the greatest orators the world has ever produced; we may even say, without hesitation, the greatest. His words were so penetrating. He was a man of words, not a man of silence. Why did he suddenly remain silent?

 

He was moving toward the cross. Pilate asked him, "What is truth?" Jesus had spent his whole life talking about truth; he was defining only that, that is why Pilate asked him. But he remained silent.

 

What happened in Jesus' inner world has never been reported because it is difficult to report. Christianity has allowed it to remain submerged because what happened in the inner world of Jesus can only be interpreted in India, nowhere else. Only India knows about the inner changes, the inner transformation that happens.

 

What happened was this: Jesus is suddenly on the verge of crucifixion. He is about to be crucified and now his whole revolution is meaningless. Everything that he has been saying is futile, everything that he has been living for is coming to an end. Everything is finished. And because death is so near, he must now move within. No time can be lost, not a single moment can be lost. He must come to the end of his journey now, and before he is crucified he must complete the inner journey.

 

All along he had been on an inner journey. But because he was also entangled with outer problems he could not move to that cool point, the moon point; he remained fiery, hot. But it may be that he did this consciously. Jesus was a disciple of John the Baptist who was a great revolutionary and spiritual leader. John the Baptist had waited for Jesus for many years. Then, on the day he initiated Jesus in the River Jordan, he said to Jesus, "Now take over my work and I will disappear. It is enough." And from that day on, he was rarely seen again; he disappeared. In the words of the inner language, he disappeared from the sun point and moved to the moon point; he became silent. He had done his work and had now given the work to someone who would complete it.

 

On the day of the crucifixion Jesus must have become aware that now his work was finished: "There is no longer any possibility of doing anything more now. I must move within. The opportunity must not be lost." That is why, when Pilate asked him what truth is, he remained silent. Because of this, the miracle happened which has remained an enigma for Christianity. Because of this.

 

As he was moving to his cooler side, to the moon center, he was crucified. When someone comes to the moon center for the first time, his breathing stops because breathing, too, is an activity of the sun point. Now everything becomes silent; everything is as if dead. They thought he was dead, but he was not. He had simply come to the moon center where breathing stops: no outgoing breath, no ingoing breath -- the gap.

 

When one remains in the gap, there is such a deep balance that it is a virtual death. But it is not death. The crucifiers, the murderers of Jesus, thought that he was dead so they allowed his disciples to bring the body down. But he was not dead, and when the cave was opened after three days he was not there. The "dead" body had disappeared. After three days, Jesus was seen again by four or five people. But no one would believe them when they went to the villages to say that Jesus was resurrected. No one would believe it.

 

When he escaped from Jerusalem, Jesus went to Kashmir, where he remained. But then his life was not the life of Jesus but the life of Christ. Jesus was the sun point and Christ the moon point. From then on, he remained totally silent. That is why there is no record of him. He would not talk, he would not deliver any message, he would not preach. He remained in Kashmir, not as a revolutionary but as a master, living in his own silence. A few people traveled to be with him. Those who became aware of his presence in Kashmir, without having had any outward information about it, would travel to him. And really, there were not so few -- maybe only a few in comparison to the world, but there were many.

 

Christianity is incomplete because it knows only the early, revolutionary Jesus. And because of that, Christianity could give birth to communism. But Jesus himself died as a fully enlightened man -- a full moon.

 

-Osho, "The Great Challenge, #9, Q10"

 


 

 

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    Question 4 Osho, To me it seems that the christian concept of the soul is the same as what you mean by the real i, the one who is the watcher. Why didn’t Jesus speak about the possibility of reincarnation of the soul? This seems to be a difference between eastern and wes...
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    on Moses Ten Commandments and Osho Ten Commandments

    Question 1 Beloved Osho, What do you think of moses' ten commandments? do you have any commandments for us? Moses is one of the most charismatic leaders that the world has known, but he is not a religious man. He is a lawgiver. But to be a law giver is one thing, and to ...
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    on Jesus Stories

    My work is done as far as I am concerned because I am done. Now the energy has become a compassion and an overflowing, and all those who really want to taste are invited to do so without any condition. You are not to give anything, you simply are to take. No discipline, ...
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    When and where did enlightenment happen to Jesus Christ?

    Question 4 : This question has been hovering in me for years. A few times you have talked around it, but this has mystified me more, So please enlighten. When and where did enlightenment happen to Jesus? Was he born enlightened? -- as it is said some three wise men from ...
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    Conversion does not mean a change of religion; it means a change of consciousness

    Meditation means a state of no-mind — where all the functioning of the mind has ceased. The moment the functioning of the mind ceases you have a profound silence such that you have never known before, such clarity, such transparency — because all the clouds are gone, all...
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    Christianity is a Sick Religion - More Sick than Any Other Religion.

    Question 2 Beloved Osho, Somehow i can't believe my laughter, if it's true, but i always believe in my tears. please comment. Everybody does it; mankind has been accustomed to misery. Misery is taken for granted; it is thought to be natural. Not to be miserable is danger...
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    Jesus loved. That was one of his crimes: that he loved.

    Question 2 It is believed that Christ was the first politician of love in that he tried to save the world before he had saved himself, and that we are his children: politicians of love, seeking heaven on earth. Politician, and Christ? Politics and love are impossible to ...
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    What is true repentance?

    Question 2: Osho, What is true repentance? The religions have made much fuss about repentance. Jesus goes on repeating again and again to his people, "Repent, repent, because the kingdom of God is close! Repent, because the day of judgment is coming close!" First, religi...
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    Jesus learnt the secrets of the truth through Buddhist masters

    Jesus is right when he says: Truth liberates. Truth is liberation. There is every possibility that Jesus learnt the secrets of the truth through Buddhist masters. There is every possibility that before he started his work in Israel, he was in India, in Nalanda, with Budd...
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    Let Thy kingdom come, Let Thy will be done

    on "Let Thy kingdom come, Let Thy will be done" A really religious person is not a man of will. A really religious person has dropped his will; he allows God’s will to flow through him. That’s what Jesus says at the last moment on the cross: ‘Let thy kingdom come, let TH...
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    on Saint Francis of Assisi - Saint Francis is a Buddha

    The extraordinariness of a Buddha is his utter ordinariness. His ordinariness is his extraordinariness. To be ordinary is the most extraordinary thing in the world. Just the other night I came across a very beautiful story about Saint Francis, a Buddha. Saint Francis of ...
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  71. Why I am not a Christian? (2/4) - Bertrand Russell

    Why I Am Not A Christian by Bertrand Russell March 6, 1927 National Secular Society, South London branch Battersea Town Hall The Natural-Law Argument Then there is a very common argument from Natural Law. That was a favorite argument all through the eighteenth century, e...
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    Jesus says again and again,’Who is my family? — those who have understood me

    Trust is the greatest thing in the world that can happen to a man, because it is the most impossible thing. To trust somebody else is almost impossible, because doubt continues. Howsoever you trust, the other is the other. Who knows? How can you penetrate the other? You ...
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    Three Stages of Human Consciousness: Adam, Jesus and Christ

    Three Stages of Human Consciousness: Adam, Jesus and Christ Man’s evolution is from innocence to innocence. The first innocence is ignorant, the second innocence is luminous. The first innocence is a kind of sleep; the second innocence is an awakening. The first innocenc...
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    on Christian dictum love thy neighbour as thyself

    on Christian dictum love thy neighbour as thyself The second commandment, Jesus says, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF. ... because, in fact, all humanity is you, in many faces and in many forms. Can't you see it -- that your neighbour is nobody else than you, yo...
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    Jesus has said ‘Truth liberates’, because truth is liberation

    Truth is beyond structure. It comes only when you are in an unstructured state of consciousness. It comes only when there is no expectation for it, not even preparation for it, because all preparation is expectation. Truth comes unawares, truth comes as a surprise. You c...
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    The masses became interested in Jesus only because of his so-called miracles

    Question : Are you yourself able to make things Materialize? I am able to do it. And I am also able not to do it – because I feel the absurdity of it. And the second ability is better. Buddha could not be persuaded to do it, but Jesus had to do it. Again, the reason is t...
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    Who is Jesus Christ?

    Who is Jesus Christ? Who is Jesus Christ? The question has been asked down the centuries again and again, and it has been answered too. But the questioners were wrong, and so were those who have answered it, because the question was out of a certain prejudice, and so was...
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    The Only Miracle

    The Only Miracle The real problem is the mind, because the mind is created by human society, specially designed to keep you a slave. The body has a beauty of its own. It is still part of the trees and the ocean and the mountains and the stars. It has not been polluted by...
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    Christ is totally different from Christianity

    Question 1 A single session of your dynamic meditation has left within me a greater bliss and sense of being than twenty years of having had to listen to the stories of the New Testament and to pray to an almighty and distant god who stayed an unexperienceable godot to m...
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    Make the Two One

    Make the Two One [This discourse is from the series that Osho spoke on the Gospel According to Thomas.] THE EIGHTH SAYING JESUS SAW CHILDREN WHO WERE BEING SUCKLED. HE SAID TO HIS DISCIPLES: THESE CHILDREN WHO ARE BEING SUCKLED ARE LIKE THOSE WHO ENTER THE KINGDOM. THEY ...
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    Christ disappeared, and Christianity was left behind.

    Rebellion is unorganized, rebellion is individual. It comes out of the authenticity of a single being; it comes out of the authenticity of a single being's heart. Revolution is political, rebellion is religious. Revolution means a social phenomenon; rebellion is meditati...
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    When Jesus touched the feet of his disciples, love touched their feet

    Why did Jesus touch their feet? He could have touched their heads, so why their feet? Feet are symbols of the lowly. In your body, they are the lowest part. Jesus touched their feet to show that God is there also; even in a thorn bush, in the lowliest, in the LOWEST dept...
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    When Jesus says blessed are the meek for theirs is the kingdom of god, by meek he means the egoless.

    Love is possible only in the climate of egolessness. With the ego love cannot grow. Ego is like a rock and love is like a rose flower: if you put a rock on the rose bush there is no possibility of its growing, no possibility of roses ever flowering. The ego can do everyt...
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    Jesus miracles happened because people were very trusting

    A disease, any disease, first arises deep in the mind and then moves towards the body. It may take a long time to come to the body, it is a long distance. You are not aware of it when it is in the mind, you become aware of it only when it strikes hard at the roots of the...
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    The Four Dimensions of Man

    The Four Dimensions of Man Man is not a meaning but an opportunity. The meaning is possible, but is not given. The meaning can be created, but it is not already there. It is a task not a gift. Life is a gift, but life is open opportunity. Meaning is not a gift, meaning i...
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    If you become a christ, the priest is not needed anymore

    The moment you take responsibility totally, it is a great redemption, it is freedom. You are suddenly out of the jail -- just by taking the responsibility. It is difficult to accept, very difficult, hard to accept, that "I am responsible"; it hurts the ego. But there is ...
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    Saint Francis the Buddha

    Saint Francis the Buddha Just the other night I came across a very beautiful story about Saint Francis, a Buddha. Saint Francis of Assisi lay on his deathbed. He was singing, and singing so loudly that the whole neighborhood was aware. Brother Elias, a pompous but promin...
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    on Jesus Sacrifice on the cross and Salvation of the world

    Question : Osho, Jesus said that his sacrifice on the cross was for the salvation of the world from the sins of man. Please would you comment on this. Anand Geetam, THE FIRST THING TO BE UNDERSTOOD about a man like Jesus is that whatsoever the church that is bound to gro...
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    Never be a Christian, be a Christ.

    Never be a Christian, be a Christ. "I don’t want you to become Christians - that is useless, that is a lie. I want you to become Christs. And you can become Christs, because you have the same seed" -Osho, "The Mustard Seed: My Most Loved Gospel on Jesus, #21" You cannot ...
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    Christianity does not have any philosophy, it has a theology

    Question 5 : Osho, What is the difference between your philosophy and that of christianity? It is a strange question — strange, because Christianity does not have any philosophy, it has a theology. And there is a great difference between philosophy and theology. Theology...
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    Jesus tried to help people not to feel guilty. That was his whole effort.

    Question : Are fear and guilt the same thing? and surely as light shows up darkness, So jesus must have made people aware of their guilt. Fear and guilt are not the same thing. Fear accepted becomes freedom; fear denied, rejected, condemned, becomes guilt. If you accept ...
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    How can we believe that you are the Messiah? Prove it!

    Question : How can i see you, how can i recognize you, Osho? An ancient saying: When the sun rises we know this, not by staring at it, but because we can see everything ELSE clearly. HOW DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE SUN? You don’t stare at the sun – you look at the trees, you lo...
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    on Conversion of Aboriginal people to Christianity and Western Lifestyle

    Question 1 Beloved Osho, The other night when you were talking about the decadence and suicidal tendency of western society, peaking now in the USA, i was wondering why the western lifestyle is capable of penetrating other cultures and spoiling them in a short time. It a...
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    Was Jesus really born of a virgin mother?

    Question 3: Was Jesus really born of a virgin mother? ONE THING HAS TO BE UNDERSTOOD: the ancients used to talk in metaphors, the ancients used to talk in poetic ways - and that has been misunderstood very much. We talk in scientific ways; our language has gone totally d...
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    There is no future for Christianity.

    There is no future for Christianity. The Christians have been claiming that they have discovered the world. It is just holy shit. Columbus never discovered America, he re-discovered it. It had been discovered many times before, and there are valid evidences for it. In Tu...
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    I would not like my people to be like Christian missionaries

    Question 2 Beloved Osho, More than anything else i want your vision to happen. When i am not with you, and i am out in the world, alone, What part can i play in helping your vision to happen? Just be yourself, utterly yourself. And never think in terms of how you can hel...
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    Those who are first in this world will be last in the kingdom of God, and those who are last here will be first in the kingdom of God.

    DESIRE POWER ARDENTLY. ... AND THAT POWER WHICH THE DISCIPLE SHALL COVET IS THAT WHICH SHALL MAKE HIM APPEAR AS NOTHING IN THE EYES OF MEN. We will be moving more and more in contradictions. The language of religion is bound to be contradictory. On the face, it looks irr...
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    Religious War: A Contribution of Christianity

    Religious War: A Contribution of Christianity Question 1: Osho, Are you especially against christianity? I hate to favor Christianity with any special attention but unfortunately it deserves it. It is the ugliest manifestation of religion on the earth, for many reasons. ...
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    Why is Jesus thought to be born out of a Virgin Mother? - Sex can be virgin, and celibacy may not be virgin.

    Question 3 Osho, Why is Jesus thought to be born out of a virgin mother? There are a few points to be understood... One: Jesus can be born only out of a virgin woman. But remember, virginity has nothing to do with celibacy – not, at least, for me. Virginity is something ...
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