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Question 1:

Osho,

What is the difference between obeying the master and following his guidance?

 

 

The question is complex. In the first place, the master does not expect to be obeyed but to be understood. He does not give you guidelines either. In his presence, your loving heart finds them. It means that those who order and expect that their orders should be followed, complied with, are not authentic masters.

 

The master is not a commander. He does not issue things like `Ten Commandments.’ Certainly, he explains to you his experience, his realization, and then it is up to your intelligence to do whatever is right. It is not a direct order, it is an appeal to your intelligence. An order never cares about your intelligence, an order never wants you to understand anything. The basic purpose of all ordering of people is to reduce them into robots.

 

All over the world, in every army, they are turning millions of people into machines — of course, in such a way that you don’t understand what is going on. Their methodology is very indirect. What does it mean that thousands of people every morning are marching, following orders — “Right turn, left turn, move forward, move backward” — for what is all this circus going on? And for years it goes on. This is to destroy your intelligence.

 

The strategy is that if for years continuously you go on following any kind of stupid thing, meaningless, every day in the morning, every day in the evening… And you are not supposed to ask why. You just have to do it, to do it as perfectly as possible; there is no need for you to understand why. And when a person goes through such a training for years, the natural effect is that he stops asking why. And why? — because the questioning attitude is the very base of all intelligence. The moment you stop asking why, you have stopped growing as far as intelligence is concerned.

 

It happened in the second world war…. A retired army man… he had fought in the first world war, and he was honored well; he was a brave man. And now almost twenty-five years had passed. He had a small farm and lived silently.

 

He was going from the farm to his house with a bucket full of eggs, and a few people in a restaurant, just jokingly, played a trick on the poor old army man. One of the men in the restaurant shouted, “Attention!” and the man dropped the bucket and stood in the position of attention.

 

It had been twenty-five years since he had gone through the training. But the training had gone into the bones, into the blood, into the marrow; it had become part of the unconscious. He completely forgot what he was doing — it happened almost autonomously, mechanically. He was very angry. But those people said, “Your anger is not right, because we can call out any word we want. Who is telling you to follow it?”

 

He said, “It is too late for me to decide whether to follow it or not to follow it. My whole mind functions like a machine. Those twenty-five years simply disappeared. `Attention’ only means `attention’. You destroyed my eggs. I am a poor man.”

 

But this is being done all over the world. And not only today; from the very beginning armies have been trained not to use intelligence, but to follow orders. You have to understand one thing very clearly: that to follow an order and to understand a thing are two diametrically opposite things. If, by understanding, your intelligence feels satisfied and you do something out of that, you are not following an order from the outside; you are following your own intelligence.

 

And an authentic master is not your commander. He loves you, and he wants you to be more understanding, more intelligent, more capable of finding your way, more insightful, more intuitive. This cannot be done by orders.

 

I am reminded of another incident in the first world war. In Berlin, one German professor of logic was recruited into the army. There was a shortage of soldiers, and everybody who was physically able was asked to volunteer. Otherwise, they were forcing people to go to the army….

 

Because all the societies, all the nations, all the cultures, have taken it for granted that the individuals exist for them, not vice-versa. To me, just the opposite is the case: the society exists for the individual, the culture exists for the individual, the nation exists for the individual. Everything can be sacrificed, but the individual cannot be sacrificed for anything. Individuality is the very flowering of existence — nothing is higher than it. But no culture, no society, no civilization is ready to accept a simple truth.

 

The professor was forced. He said, “I am not a man who can fight. I can argue, I am a logician. If you need somebody to argue with the enemies, I am ready, but fighting is not my business. It is barbarous to fight.”

 

But nobody listened, and finally he was brought to the parade grounds. The parade started, and the commander said, “Left turn.” Everybody turned left, but the professor remained standing as he was standing.

 

The commander was a little worried: “What is the matter? Perhaps the man is deaf.” So he shouted loudly, “Now turn to the left again!” All the people turned to the left again, but that man remained standing as if he had not heard anything.

 

Forward, backward… all the orders were given and everybody followed. That man remained just standing in his place. He was a well-known professor; even the commander knew him. He could not be treated just like any other soldier, he had a certain respect. Finally, when the parade ended and everybody came back to the same line from where they had started, the commander went to the professor and asked, “Is there some problem with your ears? Can’t you hear?”

 

He said, “I can hear.”

 

“But then,” the commander said, “why did you remain standing? Why did you not follow the orders?”

 

He said, “What is the point? When everybody finally has to come back to the same state, after all this movement going forward and backward, left and right, what have they gained?”

 

The commander said, “It is not a question of gaining, it is a training!”

 

But he said, “I don’t need any training. This kind of stupid thing… You come to the same place after doing all kinds of stupid things, which I don’t see any point in. Can you explain to me why I should turn left and not right?”

 

The commander said, “Strange, no soldier asks such questions.”

 

The professor said, “I am not a soldier, I am a professor. I have been forced to be here, but you cannot force me to do things against my intelligence.”

 

The commander went to the higher authorities and said, “What to do with this man? He may spoil other people — because everybody is laughing at me, and everybody is saying, `Professor, you did great!’ I cannot tackle that man. He asks… each thing has to be explained: `Unless I understand it, unless my intelligence supports it, I am not going to do it.'”

 

The commander in chief said, “I know the man. He is a great logician. His whole life’s training is in questioning everything. I will take care of him, you don’t be worried.”

 

He called the professor to his office and said, “I am sorry, but we cannot do anything. You have been recruited; the country needs soldiers. But I will give you some work which will not create any difficulty for you and will not create any difficulty for others. You come with me to the army mess.”

 

He took the professor there, and showed him a big pile of green peas. He told the professor, “You do one thing: sit down here. You have to sort out the big peas on one side, the small peas on the other side. And after one hour I will come to see how things are progressing.”

 

After one hour he came back. The professor was sitting there and the peas were also sitting there, in the same place. He said, “What is the matter? You have not even started.”

 

He said, “For the first and for the last time, I want you all to understand that unless you explain to me… Why should I sort out the peas? My intelligence feels insulted by you. Am I an idiot, to sort the peas? What is the need? Moreover, there are other problems. Sitting here, I thought that perhaps there is some need, but there are questions which have to be decided: there are peas which are big and there are peas which are small, but there are peas of many other sizes. Where are they going to go? You have not given me any criterion.”

 

A mystery school, a spiritual path, is not the path of a soldier. Here, orders are prohibited. Here, only intelligence is appealed to. The decision is always on your part. It is only the phony masters who give you orders, because they cannot satisfy your intelligence. An authentic master is perfectly capable to satisfy your intelligence, and then leave it up to you. It is your life, and the final decision has to be made not by anyone else other than you. You have to take the responsibility on your own shoulders. So there are no orders as far as true masters are concerned. You have also asked about guidelines.

 

People have been told such nonsense for centuries — as if spirituality is a kind of geography, so that maps are given to you, guidelines are provided to you: Follow the right guidelines and you will reach the goal. Alas, things are not so cheap.

 

There are no maps in existence; no solid guidelines either, because each individual is so unique that what may be a guideline for one may prove a distraction for another; what may be medicine to one may prove poison to another. Individuals are so different. And if a master cannot understand the difference of individuals, their unique qualities, talents, geniuses, then who is going to understand? No general guidelines can be provided.

 

The master simply goes on dropping all kinds of hints. Remember my word `hints’ — not guidelines. And you have to choose whatever suits you, and you have to experiment to see whether it is workable for you or not. If it works, go on deeper into it; if it does not work, don’t feel guilty. You have not committed any sin, you have simply failed in an experiment.

 

With a master, life becomes a scientific experiment. It is no more a question of heaven and hell, punishment and reward. It is a question of exploration. And each individual has to explore in his own way. There are no golden rules: this is the only golden rule there is. There is no superhighway with milestones telling you how far you are from the goal. In the spiritual exploration, you have to walk and create your path by your walking; there is no ready-made path so that you have simply to walk on it.

 

And my feeling is that this is tremendously blissful and ecstatic. You are not like railway trains. Running on rails, you cannot run into the jungles, into the mountains, anywhere you like. The railway train is a prisoner.

 

But a river is not a prisoner. It also travels long. It may be coming thousands of miles, from the Himalayas, and it reaches finally to the ocean — with no map, with no guidelines, with no guides, and nobody on the way to whom the river can inquire, “Which way am I to go now?”… because each step is a crossroad.

 

But strangely enough, every river reaches to the ocean with great freedom, finding its own path. The master can only give you certain hints about how to find your path. He can give you certain indications whether you have found it or not, can give you certain criteria to judge whether you are moving towards the goal or away from the goal. But he does not give you guidelines. In the very nature of things, it is not possible.

 

The moment you have found a master, you have found the path. And who is the master? — not one who fulfills your mind expectations. A Christian mind has Christian expectations, a Hindu mind has Hindu expectations, a Buddhist mind has Buddhist expectations.

 

A master is one who fulfills the longing of your heart.

 

It has nothing to do with the mind. It is a love affair.

 

You simply find that you are in love. You simply find that your heart feels at home, at ease, that your heart has found a treasure, feels a tremendous benediction. And as you come closer to the master — in your love, in your trust — your peace deepens; your silence becomes not something dead, the silence of a graveyard, but something singing and dancing, alive.

 

The more you are moving towards your life’s fulfillment, the more your life becomes a rejoicing, a deep joy for no reason at all, a blissfulness so deep and so abundant that you can start sharing it with others. In fact, you have to share it with others because it is overflowing, you cannot contain it.

 

For the first time, you are small and your bliss is infinite.

 

These are the indications that you are moving towards home.

 

Your ecstasies go on growing deeper and higher.

 

And if you are moving away, you will become more miserable, more sad, more saintly, more Christian, more Hindu, more Jaina — all kinds of diseases. More knowledgeable… but inside, more and more empty; a beggar living by a thin thread of hope that somewhere in the other life, somewhere in the other world, you will be rewarded for all your sadness, your long British faces.

 

Saints don’t laugh. They have fallen below humanity, because only human beings laugh. Buffaloes don’t laugh, donkeys don’t laugh — they all belong to the categories of the saints and sages. Perhaps these fellows — donkeys and buffaloes — may have been great sages in their past lives and now they are getting their reward. Don’t misbehave with them. Be respectful. One never knows. But as far as I am concerned, your sense of humor, your laughter will become deeper as you grow in consciousness. You will become more playful in life.

 

So there are neither orders nor guidelines, but only vague hints, indications, and a constant effort to sharpen your intelligence so that you can find your way. And when you have found, you have the courage to burst into songs, into dances, into rejoicings. That’s the function of the master: to make you more intelligent and more courageous, more loving, more understanding. But there are no orders, no disciplines, no guidelines.

 

Orders, disciplines, guidelines — these have been used by people who wanted to dominate you, by people who wanted to dictate their terms, to enforce their ideas on other people’s lives. I call all such people great criminals. To impose your idea on somebody, to give some ideal, some mold, is violence, sheer violence. You are being destructive, and a master cannot do that.

 

A master is always creative.

 

- Osho, “Beyond Enlightenment, #10, Q1”

 

 

 

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    on Guru – Guru literally means ‘the light’

    Kabir says: The only thing worth doing is to wake up my mind. The God, the REAL guru, is inside. The word ‘guru’ is untranslatable. Neither does the word ‘teacher’ nor the word ‘Master’ have that beauty. In fact, the phenomenon of the guru i...
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    Can the Master really save the disciple?

    Question 3: Can the Master really save the disciple? Certainly, absolutely… if the disciple is really a disciple he is already saved. It is not that first you have to be a disciple and then you will be saved – in your very being a disciple y...
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    To become a disciple is to be fortunate. To find a Master is the greatest blessing that can happen to a man on the earth.

    KABIR SAYS: "THE GURU IS GREAT BEYOND WORDS, AND GREAT IS THE GOOD FORTUNE OF THE DISCIPLE." Yes, to become a disciple is to be fortunate. To find a Master is the greatest blessing that can happen to a man on the earth. It is very rare to fi...
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    Why are there no women masters?

    Question : You, Buddha, Jesus, etc. are all men. you say women are closer to no-mind. why did you choose a man’s body? why are there no women masters? It is from Deva Chandan – of course, a woman who belongs to the lib movement. It is signif...
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    on Mary Magdalene and Judas

    Remember Mary Magdalene? She seems to me the only true follower of Jesus. Her authenticity, her daring, is immense. Jesus had come to her house and she poured precious perfume on his feet, washed the feet with the perfume, then wiped the fee...
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    The significance of being with a master.

    Rejoice in the world! In the past we have renounced too much and the result has been nil. How many buddhas have we produced in the past? They can be counted on the fingers. Only rarely, very rarely, a man became a Buddha, Christ or Krishna. ...
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    A real religious seeker does not go in search of scriptures, he goes in search of a Master — a living Master.

    Real religion is never in the scriptures. And a real religious seeker does not go in search of scriptures, he goes in search of a Master — a living Master. That is one of the basic tenets of Kabir’s understanding: SATGURU — the living Master...
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    You are not to become attached to the presence of the master

    Question : Osho, Sitting in your presence, meditation is really at its best. If asked why, i would say that it is because your blissful presence is contagious and somehow motivates me to be as total as possible. Beloved Osho, would you pleas...
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    What Does it mean to be a Disciple?

    Question 2 : Osho, What Does it mean to be a Disciple? Prem Samadhi, it is one of the most delicate mysteries. No definition is possible of a disciple, but a few hints can be given, just fingers pointing to the moon. Don’t cling to the finge...
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    Without the Master the path is very risky

    A parable… Once in the garden of a Master there lived a monkey. And, as monkeys are curious people, he became very curious about the Master. He saw the Master sitting silently, doing nothing, and by and by he started coming close to him – wh...
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    He who has recognized the guru, has discovered the hand of God

    Nanak says whenever a person becomes liberated many others are liberated by contact with them. Liberation is such a great and superb occurrence and it is such a beatific occasion — even a single person’s liberation — that whoever comes near ...
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    What can a Guru do for you?

    Question : What can a Guru do for you? The question is from Vidya’s mother, Sigrid. She must be worried about Vidya, about what is happening to Vidya here. And, deep down, she is nagging Vidya and trying to take back. It is natural, nothing ...
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    Be my Disciples but not my Followers

    Chuang Tzu always watched monkeys. He was deeply interested in them because they are the forefathers of man. And a monkey is hidden in you! This whole world is nothing but a monkey mountain, all around are monkeys. What is the characteristic...
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    The teacher gives you much to dream about, to desire about; the Master hammers on all your dreams and destroys them

    Beware of the scholars; they are the most stupid people around. But they talk beautifully, and if you are not alert you can be very easily deceived by them. They recite Koran, they recite Bhagavad Gita, they quote the Vedas, the Upanishads, ...
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    on fake masters and their spiritual talks

    Question : How is it that people who are not enlightened can talk with such apparent inside knowledge and so convincingly about the whole business? Precisely because of that. Not knowing, they don’t hesitate; not knowing, they have nothing t...
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    You don’t surrender to me. You simply surrender your ego

    Question : You said nobody should dictate what you should do with your life. How does that fit with being available and surrendering to you? In the first place I am a nobody. Now listen to the question again. YOU SAID NOBODY SHOULD DICTATE W...
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    on System-makers and System-destroyers

    Question 4: You said that shiva is not a system-maker and sects cannot form around his teachings. But persons like buddha, mahavir, jesus, gurdjieff, seem to be great system-makers. Why do they have to be system-makers? Please explain the pr...
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    The very presence of a master is seductive

    A person who happens to be enlightened will attract you – either your love or your hate. But one thing is certain: you cannot be indifferent to him, because he has gone so deep that his depth will resonate within you, will resound, reflect. ...
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    The master is in a state of love — it does not matter to whom.

    Question : Osho, Sometimes it seems as if you are more surrendered to us than we are to you. Please comment. It is true. I am not surrendered to you, to my people particularly. But because I have got rid of the ego, I am simply surrendered t...
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    on Dying in Master’s Presence – Physical closeness means nothing

    Question : Osho, Thoughts of death have been a frequent visitor during my disciplehood. How can a disciple die in a master’s presence, especially when the master is physically distant? Osho, is mahakashyap the only answer? The question is no...
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    The world of the gurus has ended.

    The world of the gurus has ended. My Friends and my Fellow Travelers, I would have loved to use the Urdu words for the same, because they have a depth and a poetry . . . even the very sound of them rings bells in the heart. The ordinary mean...
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    My people, once they become enlightened, are going to be masters

    I could say that not only you all will be enlightened; you all will be masters. All enlightened people have not been masters, but I can say with tremendous guarantee that my people, once they become enlightened, are going to be masters, for ...
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    Do all enlightened masters sound as egoistic as you do?

    Question : Do all enlightened masters sound as egoistic as you do? It is bound to be so. They sound egoistic because they cannot be humble in the sense you understand humility. Try to understand. It is a delicate point. Whatsoever you call h...
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    What are the qualities of the Seeker of truth?

    Question 1: Osho, What are the qualities of the Seeker of truth? Every child is born with an innate search for truth. It is not something learned or adopted later on in life. Truth simply means, “I am, but I do not know who I am.” And the qu...
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    on Egyptian Mystic Dhun-Nun - Surrender means total trust

    Surrendering is enough. It is a sudden method, it can work in a moment, it can explode you in a moment. On the surface it looks easy – that one has not to do anything, just to surrender. Then you do not know what surrendering means. It can m...
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    To live purposelessly is the way of being religious

    [A visitor says he is confused about the master-disciple relationship. He doesn’t know if he is ready for the spiritual path.] Mm mm. A few things…. First: there is no purpose in life. All search for purpose is bound to fail. To live purpose...
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    Unless you are in love with a Master, you will not allow him to wake you up

    Question : How do i find my way? Rashid, There is no way to be found, and there is no one to find it – and there is no need either. The very idea of the way misleads, misguides. The way is possible only if God is far away; if there is a dist...
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    Nobody has preceded me, nobody is going to succeed me. I am a perfect circle

    Question 1: Who prepared the way for you? NOBODY HAS PREPARED THE WAY FOR ME, and neither am I preparing the way for anybody. This has to be understood. There are four possibilities. One, the oldest and the most used, is what happened in Jes...
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    on Communion between Master and Disciple

    Prem means love, satsang means a communion with the Master -- a loving communion with the Master. Sannyas is a declaration from your side that you are ready to receive. If the door is knocked on you are ready to open it. If you are called fo...
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    To surrender to a Gurdjieff will transform you more than surrendering to Ramana Maharshi

    Question : Osho, Need one be absolutely sure about a Guru to become his disciple? You can never be absolutely sure about a guru, and that is not needed. What is needed is that you should be absolutely sure about yourself. How can you be sure...
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    Master is always acting; A Master is a perfect actor

    Question 10 : You said that a master sometimes has to be angry with the disciple and in that case he is acting. Is he acting also when he laughs or smiles at him? A Master is always acting; a Master is a perfect actor. He does not take life ...
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    On Disciple And Discipleship

    On Disciple And Discipleship One of the most beautiful phenomena in the world is that of being a disciple, because now you know what rapport is. Now you breathe, inhale, exhale with the master; now you lose your boundaries and become one wit...
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    Immediately after Osho’s enlightenment, and why he became a master?

    Immediately after Osho’s enlightenment, and why he became a master Most of the enlightened people in the world have died almost immediately after enlightenment -- the shock is too much. The body may not be able to take it, unless the body is...
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    Gurus and disciples are mind phenomena.

    Question 2 Yesterday, you said that mind is reality, dream is reality. then why do gurus like you take the trouble to teach us that mind is the only barrier, mind is the only obstacle? Gurus and disciples are mind phenomena. Because your min...
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    Why has there never been a single Woman Enlightened Master?

    Question : Why has there never been a single Woman Enlightened Master? A woman cannot be a Master — it is not possible. When a woman arrives she becomes a Mistress, not a Master. The fulfilment of a woman is love. The flowering of a woman is...
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    It is certainly the master who chooses the disciple

    It is certainly the master who chooses the disciple, but his choosing always remains indirect. He always gives a chance to the disciple to choose. The disciple is not even aware that he has been already chosen. But without the master choosin...
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    on Awakened Master – How will you recognize the real Awakened person?

    If you can find a man who is awakened, who is really virtuous and wise, whose virtue is not only a cultivated facade but a spontaneous fragrance, whose wisdom is no longer knowledge, whose wisdom is his own authentic experience... if you can...
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    A Buddha cannot be asked to help you. He is help – but a passive help

    The first thing: to ask the Buddha to help us is foolish, for three reasons. First, he cannot. Second, even if he could he would not. Third, we do not need to be helped since we are all Buddhas already. Zen people say: Because of these three...
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    The master is recognized through the heart and not through the head

    Shiva says: THE GURU IS THE WAY. Do not be a way unto yourself or you will spoil everything. First of all, it is a difficult task to find a living person because to surrender to a living person is difficult; the ego gets hurt! So people take...
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    Why have all the great masters come from the East?

    Question : Osho, Why have all the great masters come from the East? Because humanity has yet not been total. The East is introvert, the West is extrovert. Man is split, mind is schizophrenic. That’s why all the great masters have come from t...
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    Coming close to a Master certainly creates fear

    Question : I see in myself and even in this commune so much unconscious fear of change. Is your approach not Utopian? Will there ever will be anybody willing to form one world government with all its implications? Anywhere, at any time, with...
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    on Initiation – In initiation, you are more important than the technique

    Question : You have been explaining many meditation methods to us. However, Isn’t it true that no method can be all that powerful unless one is initiated into it? A method becomes qualitatively different when you are initiated into it. I am ...
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    You cannot excite a master

    You cannot excite a master, even if death is there, because excitement belongs to the mind. And you cannot surprise a master, even if death is there, because surprise also belongs to the mind. Why can’t you surprise a master? — because he ne...
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    If you feel grateful towards me it is a gratitude of the mind

    Question 2: You’ve said Meditation is a flowering. and for us, the perfume of the flower is gratitude. Is there anything we can do for you? Yes. Meditation, compassion and gratitude. Whenever you are meditative, you feel blissful; whenever y...
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    When disciple is ready the Master is also ready

    Your own innermost center is your real master. Outer masters can help, but their help is basically directed toward finding the inner master. And when the inner one is found, there is no need for the outer master. You have become master in yo...
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    An authentic sadhu is one to whom the world has become unreal, to whom another dimension has come into existence

    Question : Then how can one tell if a Sadhu is AUTHENTIC OR NOT? There is no need. If someone becomes a sadhu, it is his own private affair. There is no need to pay any attention to him. Whether he is fake or authentic, it is his affair. His...
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    The meeting with the master has always been a kind of death

    Question : Osho, I am afraid to meet you. trembling, shocked, alone… It means Death. The meeting with the master has always been a kind of death, death to all that you have been, death to your past, death to your ego, death to your personali...
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    I would like to be a world teacher

    Question : I would like to be a world teacher, The second Teerthankara of the “TRADITION OF THE MOON ” Is it possible to expose this desire to the public? First, if you really want to be a teacher, become a disciple. Unless you are a really ...
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    To be in the presence of a Buddha is to be on the way to becoming a Buddha

    In the last night, when Jesus was departing from his friends, he broke bread and gave it to his disciples and said, “Eat it; this is me.” It is possible. When a man like Jesus takes the bread in his hand, the bread is no longer the same; it ...
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    If the questioner is in a deep love and trust with the master, then everything is allowed

    Question : It has been said that a disciple should have respectful manners and a Respectful attitude towards his Master, but often i feel like asking you Playful, Joking and Naughty questions. Does this indicate lack of Respect And ’Shraddha...
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    That initiation which does not bring freedom is no initiation

    Osho on Deeksha and the Three Gachchhamis Question 5 In spiritual quest, deeksha, initiation, holds a very important place. Its special ceremonies are carried out under special conditions. Buddha and Mahavira used to give initiation. How man...
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    Master and Disciple

    The greatest art in the world is to be a disciple. It cannot be compared to anything. It is unique and incomparable. Nothing like it exists in any other relationship, nothing like it can exist. To be a disciple, to be with a master, is to mo...
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