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Trust is the outcome of deep meditation. Fate is the outcome of your failures

 

Question :

Osho,

Could you please explain the difference between trusting existence and fatalism?

 

 

The difference between trust and fate is very subtle. On the surface it seems they mean exactly the same thing, but in reality they are diametrically opposite experiences.

 

Fate is a consolation. You are poor, and you see others getting richer and richer — some consolation is needed. You do everything and you do it honestly, truthfully, morally. You never use wrong means; still you are a failure. And you see others being dishonest, cunning, insincere, immoral, criminal, using all kinds of wrong means and succeeding, becoming richer, attaining power, prestige. How to explain it?

 

It is not new. Since the very beginning man has been puzzled by it. And he had to create some idea as a consolation. Fate, kismet, destiny, God — everything is written in the lines of your hand, in the lines of your forehead; everything is predetermined in your birthchart, you cannot do anything against it. The forces that have determined your life are too big. You are going to fail; it is better to accept your failure as destiny. It hurts less to say it is fate; it gives consolation. It is not your doing, it is not your failure — what can you do against the stars? You cannot determine your birth time and the day and the year.

 

You come into the world just like an actor, comes onto the stage fully prepared. He cannot change anything. Once in a while actors can change things, because a drama is a drama….

 

I have heard that in a village… All over India, every year at this time every village is playing the drama of the life of Rama, the Hindu god. And in the beginning… it is just like any film story: a triangle — two lovers, one woman. Sita is the woman, and Rama and Ravana are the two lovers. Rama is a young man. Ravana is very strong.

 

In those days, the daughters of kings particularly had the right to choose any device for selecting their husbands. Sita had asked… because in their family they had the bow that had belonged to the god, Shiva. It was such a big strong bow that even to pick it up needed a great wrestler; it was not easy for one person to raise it. As a device Sita chose that anybody who could raise the bow, and not only raise it but break it with his hands alone — it was a steel bow — that man she would choose as her husband.

 

Hundreds of kings, great wrestlers, archers… Rama was also present there. But nobody thought he would be of any use; he was too young. Everybody was worried that Ravana — who was a huge man, dangerous, had ten heads — was going to win. And everybody was worried — Sita’s father was worried, everybody concerned was worried that Sita would fall into the hands of this idiot. Somehow she had to be saved.

 

So just as the others were coming forward — and they could not even move the bow, raising it was out of question; they were becoming laughingstocks…. Before Ravana stood up, a man came running… it was a device to send Ravana back to his kingdom. He was the king of Sri Lanka. And the man said, “What are you doing here? Sri Lanka is on fire. Your whole kingdom is burning.”

 

Ravana forgot all about getting married to Sita. He rushed off to see what was happening in the kingdom first. It was a false strategy; there was no problem, Sri Lanka was perfectly okay. But by the time he came back, Rama had broken the bow, married Sita, and gone. This was a conspiracy, and Ravana could not forgive it. He was continuously in search of Sita, to steal her. Finally he stole her, and for three years he kept her imprisoned. That’s how the whole story goes.

 

In every village it is enacted every year. In this particular village, the man who played the part of Ravana was really in love with the girl who was playing the part of Sita. But they belonged to different castes; marriage was not possible.

 

Every year it was happening: the moment he would stand up, the man would come out shouting: “Sri Lanka is on fire!”

 

This time he was determined — because outside the drama they wouldn’t allow the marriage. They were not of the same caste and in India you cannot marry in another caste. And the man who played Ravana was in a lower caste; the girl was a brahmin. This time he thought, something has to be done.

 

The man came running and he said, “Sri Lanka is on fire!”

Ravana said, “Let it be. This year I am not coming!” Everybody laughed, nobody could believe it.

 

The prompter was behind the curtain: “What are you saying?”

And he said, “This year I am going to marry Sita!” And he went up — and it was just an ordinary bow, everybody had just pretended that it was so heavy that nobody could pick it up; it was just ordinary bamboo. He took it up, showed it to the audience, broke it, threw the pieces into the audience and told Sita’s father, “Bring your daughter! Enough is enough, and the story is finished!”

 

Even people who had fallen asleep woke up — “What is happening? Something new!” The director didn’t know what to do. For a moment there was silence.

 

And Ravana was shouting, “Where is Sita? Now fulfill the promise!”

 

And nobody could say to him, “You are not following the part that has been given to you” — because that would not be right to say in front of the public.

 

But the king — Sita’s father — was a very wise man. He said to his servants, “You idiots, this is not Shiva’s bow; this is the bow my children play with. Take it away. Bring the real bow.”

 

So the servants took away the broken parts. The curtain was pulled down, and they all jumped on Ravana and said, “You idiot, you are going to destroy the whole story.”

He said, “This time I am determined.”

So the police had to be called, and Ravana was sent to the police station: “Take him, because he is destroying our whole drama.”

 

In a drama it is possible that you can change things. But in life you don’t know exactly what is written in your fate, so whatever happens has to be accepted — “This must be written in my fate.”

 

The belief in fate is simply a consolation because we cannot accept our failure as failure.

 

And we cannot accept our failure for another reason — because it has implications for all our moral values: “We were honest, we were moral, we followed right means, we were truthful, and yet we failed. And the other person was dishonest, cunning, insincere, immoral, criminal, and yet he succeeded.”

 

Now, the whole moral system teaches that truth is going to win, that morality is going to win, that honesty is going to win. But in life we see that all the honest people are losing and immoral people are gaining. The cunning, the clever become powerful. The simple and the innocent are crushed. Our whole value system is at stake.

 

So it was necessary for the priests and the prophets to find a way in which your failure would not be your failure. “You cannot do anything, it is written in your fate. Your failure is not the failure of your sincerity, morality, honesty. And the other person’s success is not the success of wrong means, dishonesty, cunningness — it is his fate. And as far as fate is concerned, nothing can change it — neither honesty nor dishonesty. Yes, because you have been honest you will have a better fate in your future life. Because he has been dishonest, he will have a bitter fate in his future life.

 

So this was a beautiful consolation, and a beautiful defense — rational — for our moral system. But it is all bogus. The truth is, the man has succeeded because of dishonesty, not because of his fate. He has succeeded because of his immorality, he has succeeded because he does not care what kind of means he is using.

 

Existence gives you birth as tabula rasa. No fate is written; there is no destiny such that whatever you do, it has to happen. Existence is freedom. Fate is slavery. Freedom means it is up to you to decide what is going to happen. Fate is a bogus hypothesis. But trust is a totally different thing.

 

Trust is not fate. Trust simply means that “Whatever happens, I am part of existence and existence cannot be intentionally inimical to me. If sometimes that it feels it is, it must be my misunderstanding.”

 

I have always loved to remember a Sufi master Junnaid. He was the master of al-Hillaj Mansoor. He had a habit: after each prayer… and Mohammedans pray five times a day. After each prayer he would say to the sky, “Your compassion is great. How beautifully you take care of us, and we don’t deserve it. I don’t even have words to show my gratefulness, but I hope you will understand the unexpressed gratitude of my heart.”

 

They were on a pilgrimage, and it happened that for three days they passed through villages where orthodox Mohammedans would not allow them even to stay in the villages; there was no question of giving them food or water.

 

For three days without food, without water, without sleep — tired, utterly frustrated… The disciples could not believe that this man Junnaid, their master, still goes on saying the same things. Before, it was okay — but still he goes on saying, “You are great, you are compassionate, and I don’t have words to express my gratitude.”

 

On the third evening when he had finished his prayer, his disciples said, “Now it is time for an explanation. For three days we have been hungry, we have not had water, we are thirsty; we have not slept, we have been insulted continually, no place has been given to us, no shelter. At least today you should not say, `You are great, you are compassionate.’ For what you are showing your gratitude?”

 

Junnaid laughed. He said, “My trust in existence is unconditional. It is not that I am grateful because existence provides this and that and that. I am — that’s enough. Existence accepts me — that’s enough. And I don’t deserve to be, I have not earned it. Moreover, these three days have been of tremendous beauty because I had an opportunity to watch whether anger would arise in me, and it didn’t arise; whether I would start to feel that God had forsaken me, and the idea did not arise.

 

There has been no difference in my attitude towards existence. My gratitude has not changed, and it has filled me with more gratitude than ever. It was a fire test, and I have come out of it unburned. What more do you want? I will trust existence in my life and I will trust existence in my death. It is my love affair.

 

“It is not a question that somebody is rich and somebody is poor, that somebody is successful and somebody is not. It has nothing to do with anybody. It is my personal, intimate contact with reality. And there is great harmony. I am completely at ease and at home.”

 

Trust is the outcome of deep meditation.

 

Fate is the outcome of your failures, and a mind consolation.

 

They are totally different.

 

- Osho, “Beyond Enlightenment, #19, Q3”

 

 

 

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    The innocence of the children is ignorance, it is not true innocence

    Question 3: Osho, Is the innocence of small children just ignorance, or has it got any value too? The innocence of the children is ignorance, it is not true innocence. The true innocence happens only after the second birth. The true innocence happens only after...
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    Doubt : The real foundation of religion is doubt, not trust.

    Osho on Doubt “The very first step to be taught in the search for truth is right doubt. A good beginning of religious education should be that. The real foundation of religion is doubt, not trust. Doubt is the beginning, trust is the end. Doubt is the search, t...
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    Doubt cannot destroy your trust. Doubt will destroy your beliefs

    Question 1: Osho, How can we believe that the soul exists after death and transmigrates to another form of life, or dissolves into the universe? I have never asked you to believe in anything. It is my experience that the soul exists after death, that it transmi...
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    Intelligence means you will start thinking on your own

    The society wants you to be stupid, not intelligent. Intelligence is dangerous. Intelligence means you will start thinking on your own, you will start looking around on your own. You will not believe in the scriptures; you will believe only in your own experien...
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    Prayer is nothing but the most refined form of love.

    Prayer is nothing but the most refined form of love. A love unaddressed to anybody, a love for the whole. -Osho, "The Messiah, Vol 1, #5"
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    Trust : If you can't trust anybody that means you must be deceiving others.

    Trust Question 5 Osho, I cannot trust anybody. why? I will just tell you a story. Meditate over it. The hired boy gets the youngest girl in the farmer's family to go out into the hayloft with him. She comes back and tells her sister, "Say, the hired boy sure kn...
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    Beware of thinking

    Once a doctor, a very well known historian and an eminent scholar, was staying in a village. The postmaster, the old postmaster of the village, became curious about this old man, this doctor. He was curious to know what kind of doctor he is, so one day he asked...
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    When fear disappears there is innocence

    If the fear comes up, that means you have to face it; it is in no way going to help you to cover it by the idea of God. You cannot have faith again, that is destroyed. Once you have met me you cannot have faith in God, because doubt is a reality, and faith is f...
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    on Innocence and Ignorance - Innocence is a state of meditativeness

    Question 1: Osho, Could you say something about innocence and ignorance? Chitprem, The difference between the two is immense; it is as vast as possible. It is the difference between darkness and light, the difference between death and life, the difference betwe...
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    Nothingness : Things disappear, only the ultimate substance remains.

    Nothingness is the fragrance of the beyond. It is the opening of the heart to the transcendental. It is the unfoldment of the one-thousand-petaled lotus. It is man's destiny. Man is complete only when he has come to this fragrance, when he has come to this abso...
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    I am not teaching philosophy

    Question 7 What is philosophy? I don't know, and I don't think that anybody else knows either. Philosophy is a useless passion. I am using Jean-Paul Sartre's words, he says 'Man is a useless passion.' I say man is NOT a useless passion but philosophy is. You as...
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    Love can at the most be only a glimpse of a ray

    Once you understand that God is both, then this highest possibility opens for you. This is the first principle, that you need not divide, all division is false, that you need not create any duality, because existence is nondual, because existence is one. And al...
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    Why do great philosophers and so forth, say such beautiful things and yet remain such a mess?

    Question 2 Why do great philosophers and so forth, say such beautiful things and yet remain such a mess? Philosophers are like fences -- they run round a lot without getting anywhere at all. Yes, they are exactly like a fence -- it goes on running round and rou...
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    Without love there is no prayer

    Without love there is no prayer, no grace, no mercy. On the tree of love all these flowers bloom. People can pray without love -- that's what they are doing all over the world, in all the churches, temples and synagogues: they don't know what love is trying to ...
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    Hinduism in its early stages was a very natural

    It is a long story.... Zen has moved from one country to another country, from one climate to another climate. It was born in India. Hinduism, as such, in its early stages, was very natural, very existential. It had no taboos about sex, its seers and saints had...
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    Chaos is the very nature of existence

    Question 4: Osho, Fritjof Capra contends that, "modern physics goes far beyond technology. The way - or tao - of physics can be a path with a heart, a way to spiritual realization." Do you agree? Maneesha, the question is not of agreeing or not agreeing, becaus...
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    Knowing is experience. Knowledge is information

    Many things have to be understood - and not only to be understood, but to be lived. The first is that knowledge is not knowing. Knowledge and knowing are different dimensions. Knowledge is information. You can collect it, you can accumulate it; you can become a...
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    To be authentic means to be totally factual

    Question 1: You said last night that modern man has become inauthentic in expressing anger, violence, sex, etc. You say that in india students and the younger generation are less violent in their emotional expressions than are western youth. does this mean that...
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    The difference between following you and surrendering

    Question 3 Please explain the difference between following you and surrendering to you. There is a great difference. Following me, you are still on the path of will; surrendering to me, the will has disappeared. Following me, you are important. You are. This is...
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    Philosophy is an obsession with words.

    Question 6 What is philosophy? Philosophy is an obsession with words. The word God becomes more significant than the experience of God; that is philosophy. Philosophers ask: What do you mean when you use the word God? What do you mean when you use the word trut...
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    This whole world outside, the objective world, is utterly empty.

    Emptiness means: this whole world outside, the objective world, is utterly empty. Think of it as empty. Contemplation it as empty and you will be surprised -- the moment you start getting into this idea of the emptiness of the whole world, many things will star...
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    Renounce that which you are not

    Being means: the purity of my inner existence, nothing added by the outside – neither wealth, nor knowledge, nor anything else – just my inner consciousness in its purity. This is what I mean, what this Upanishad means by the growth of being. This being can be ...
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    Acceptance : Tathata means saying ’Yes’ totally

    ACCEPTANCE "Acceptance is one of the most beautiful words. Buddhists, the followers of Buddha, have a term for it which is even deeper than the English word ’acceptance’; it is tathata. Tathata means saying ’yes’ so totally that in your being there is no divisi...
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    Doubt sharpens your intelligence. It is a challenge.

    Doubt sharpens your intelligence. It is a challenge. You are neither saying yes, nor are you saying no. You are saying only one thing, “I am ignorant, and I am not going to trust unless I have experienced, whatsoever the case, unless I arrive at something which...
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    We should be proud of this planet earth.

    It is one single whole; and we should be proud that our planet earth is the only planet in this vast universe, where there are millions of solar systems having millions and millions of planets. Our planet is the only one which has evolved not only life, not onl...
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    on Childhood Innocence – Buddha is childlike, and all children are Buddha-like

    Question 6: You said that when the school-child looks out of the window, he is in meditation. I always thought i was daydreaming when i did that, and far from meditation. Have i been in meditation all this time without knowing? Yes, a child is in meditation. Bu...
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    Questioning is useless if there is no space to receive

    Before you ask something, I must tell you that there are two types of questioning. One type of questioning comes not because you do not know, but because you know something. It comes out of your so-called knowledge. You have the answer already and then you rais...
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    You are a guest. Leave this earth a little more beautiful, a little more human, a little more lovable, a little more fragrant, for those unknown guests who will be following you.

    Question 2 : Osho, I feel like a guest on earth, as if i don't really belong here at all. in your beautiful gathering, i feel that i am also a guest, staying here only by your grace or by good fortune. i have nothing really to give, except myself. is this enoug...
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    Choicelessness is Bliss

    Question 1 Is it that there are only two alternatives before man - a life of abiding sorrow and suffering or one of divinity and bliss - and this choice lies with him? How is it that most have chosen the path of sorrow and suffering? It is a very significant qu...
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    Be authentically yourself. You cannot imitate.

    Remember also that religion is not an imitation. You cannot imitate a religious person. If you imitate, it will be a pseudo-religion -- false, insincere. How can you imitate me? And if you imitate, how can you be true to yourself ? You will become untrue to you...
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  84. Nature is wild, and when it is wild it has freedom.

    Mukta was my gardener in Poona. She was always moving around with scissors, and whenever she would see me she would hide her scissors. I said, "Don't do this. Why are you unnecessarily cutting these trees?" One tree particularly she used to call a monster, beca...
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    The Great Dance of Suchness

    Brahman is well known by the name Tatvanam – that – so it is to be meditated upon as Tatvanam – that. All beings love him who know Brahman as such. “Sir, teach me the Upanishad.” “The Upanishad has been imparted to you. We have, verily, imparted to you the Upan...
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    My whole message is: Accept the you that you are

    My whole message is: Accept the you that you are, because God accepts it. God respects it, and you have not respected your being yet. Be immensely happy that God has chosen you to be, that God has chosen you to exist, to see his world, to listen to his music, t...
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    Always listen to your own feelings

    A sannyasin says: I feel that I always try to impress people, and that I don't know how to respond immediately. In the group (the Aum marathon that she had just completed) I had a lot of anger and I wanted to use it, but I waited and looked to other people to s...
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    What exactly is prayer? - Prayer is an experience of resurrection, a rebirth

    Question 1 Osho, Yesterday you mentioned that to be a disciple one needs to be in prayer - but what exactly is prayer? Prayer is an experience of resurrection, a rebirth, the birth of a new vision, a new dimension, a new way of looking at things, and a new way ...
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    Doubt is trust on the way. Doubt is inquiry and trust is the fulfillment of the inquiry.

    Question 1: Lately several friends have asked me if i was sceptical towards sannyas, the ashram and you. i had to admit to the truth and said, 'yes, at times i am.' This left me with a feeling of guilt. have i committed some unforgivable, sacrilegious crime or ...
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    Trust is the ultimate product of doubt

    Question 6 You said that krishna happens to be arjuna's friend, not his master, and therefore he bears with him so patiently and clears his numerous doubts. but in the same geeta krishna says, "sanshayatma vinashyati -- a doubting mind perishes. " he says so lo...
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    Can you say something about doubt and negativity?

    Question 1: Osho, Can you say something about doubt and negativity? what is the difference? The difference between doubt and negativity is great. They look alike; on the surface they have the same color, but deep down the difference is unbridgeable. First, doub...
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    Acceptance - To accept all is the highest peak of meditation

    ACCEPTANCE Tathagata is one of the names given to Gautam the Buddha. It means one who lives in the suchness of life—who accepts whatsoever is the case, who accepts everything totally. Even death is absolutely accepted because his trust in existence is infinite....
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    What is history?

    Question 3: Osho, What is history? HISTORY is time, hence all that is really significant is not included in it, because all that is really significant is beyond time. Buddha's enlightenment under the Bodhi Tree... it is not a historical fact; there is no way to...
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    Knowledge makes you blind. It closes your eyes.

    LONG AGO, IN JAPAN, A BLIND MAN VISITING A FRIEND ONE NIGHT, WAS OFFERED A PAPER-AND-BAMBOO LANTERN TO CARRY HOME WITH HIM. 'I DO NOT NEED A LANTERN,' HE SAID, 'DARKNESS OR LIGHT IS ALL THE SAME TO ME.' 'I KNOW YOU DO NOT NEED A LANTERN TO FIND YOUR WAY, HIS FR...
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    Can someone who is not open wake up?

    Question 2: Osho, Can someone who is not open wake up? Deva Ashoka, it is impossible to wake up if you are not open. Opening to existence is what waking up is all about: open to the sun, to the moon, to the rain, to the wind, open to this whole celebration of t...
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    How to create intelligence?

    Question 4 Why dont I have any other question than this one? I am not enlightened so I feel my mind is becoming Dull It is just the other way round. Your mind is dull that's why you are not getting enlightened! Now you are putting things in completely the wrong...
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    Remain true to yourself and you will remain true to God.

    You should never listen to what others are saying; listen to your feelings. Remain true to yourself and you will remain true to God. He has already given you the key -- the key is in your feelings. Never imitate, because there is no one way for all. If you unde...
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    I want you to be intelligent, to decide for yourself

    Question 1: Osho, Goethe once wrote in his 'Goetz Von Berlichingen', "Poverty, Chastity and Obedience - Unbearable are they all." What do you think about his statement? It is absolutely correct. These are the three calamities that have ruined the very being of ...
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    Real renunciation means unconditioning the mind.

    Real renunciation means unconditioning the mind. LIFE IS DIALECTICAL. It is more Hegelian than Aristotelean because it consists of the opposites. Without the opposites existence is impossible -- day and night, life and death, summer and winter. Life is so vast ...
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